Learn the Basic Pass Line Bet Before All Other Bets. C raps offers a variety of bets, some good and some bad. You'll learn in another article what 'good' and 'bad' mean, but first let's learn the basics. Most bets are similarly marked on the tables in all casinos, so in general, all craps tables look alike, except for cosmetic differences such as color and letter/number style. When the term 'wrong' side betting is used, it is referred to the so-called Don't Pass bets, which could be exactly as profitable as the Pass Line betting.In addition, as long as craps players realize the fact that the Don't Side strategies are quite similar to the 'right' side betting, it would be easier for them to understand these strategies.
For example, if I placed $100 on the Don't Pass and then layed the 4 for $200, I am essentially taking the 7 out of the equation except for the 5% commission I must pay to the house for laying the 4. Then, when the point was rolled, I could simply place my Lay 4 on the off position and then sit back and wait for the 7 to come up. If I was worried about the 11 on the come out roll, I could place a $10.00 YO bet. With the 5% commission on the win and the $10 YO bet, I'm down $15.00 per roll before even starting. But, I have the edge on the point.
I know there is NO way to beat craps. I'm simply looking for a way to get past that dreaded come out roll when playing the Don't Pass.
I'd much rather lose $15.00 and have a chance of winning rather than lose $100 and not even make it on the board.
Anybody every tried this or have any thoughts?
Of course, the shooter could make the point 4 which means you just lost -200-100-600= $900
I like to play the don't pass side of the craps table. However, the biggest challenge is simply getting past the come out roll. Once you have established a point, the odds are to your advantage that a 7 will come up before the point. What I am curious to know is how it would reduce the house edge if on the come out roll I layed the 4 or 10?
For example, if I placed $100 on the Don't Pass and then layed the 4 for $200, I am essentially taking the 7 out of the equation except for the 5% commission I must pay to the house for laying the 4. Then, when the point was rolled, I could simply place my Lay 4 on the off position and then sit back and wait for the 7 to come up. If I was worried about the 11 on the come out roll, I could place a $10.00 YO bet. With the 5% commission on the win and the $10 YO bet, I'm down $15.00 per roll before even starting. But, I have the edge on the point.
I know there is NO way to beat craps. I'm simply looking for a way to get past that dreaded come out roll when playing the Don't Pass.
I'd much rather lose $15.00 and have a chance of winning rather than lose $100 and not even make it on the board.
Anybody every tried this or have any thoughts?
First of all, if a 7 comes out, you will lose your Don't Pass bet regardless of whether you have made any other bets or not. So you cannot alter the outcome of that bet, and therefore, you cannot alter the house edge.
If you make a Lay bet on the 4 or 10, you will incur the house edge on that bet as well. Thus, by doing that, you INCREASE the house edge overall, because you are making more bets that have a house edge. Furthermore, the Lay bet has a higher house edge than the Don't Pass. So not only do you not help yourself with the Lay bet, you actually hurt yourself.
If you are uncomfortable with the fact that most come out rolls that give an immediate decision on the Pass/Don't Pass are losers for you, then maybe you should be making some other bet. After all, you will get your Don't bet immediately smacked down 8 out of 36 times, and only win 3 out of 36 times. It's especially fun, as you well know, to have the first four rolls be 7-7-11-7, and suddenly you're in a huge hole. But you should comfort yourself with the fact that you are, essentially, putting yourself in the same position as the house--and they make money!
Kitty bingo mobile. Anybody ever tried this or have any thoughts?
Yes! When I used to play the dark side, this is EXACTLY the same method I would use to establish a DP bet (exact amounts wagered as well!) However, the situation that RaleighCraps mentions can (and will) happen from time to time. No avoiding this fact. There are times when your lay bet will remain untouched for a great while - and you'll have some really good days. There will also be days where your lay bet keeps getting taken down. It doesn't happen often..but it does happen. So you're going to need to figure out what other bets you can deploy around this betting strategy in order to sustain your bankroll.
Good luck!
No avoiding this fact.
One easy way to avoid the problem is to make a smaller initial bet and then lay odds up to that $100 sum.
First of all, if a 7 comes out, you will lose your Don't Pass bet regardless of whether you have made any other bets or not. So you cannot alter the outcome of that bet, and therefore, you cannot alter the house edge.
If you make a Lay bet on the 4 or 10, you will incur the house edge on that bet as well. Thus, by doing that, you INCREASE the house edge overall, because you are making more bets that have a house edge.
More specifically, you increase your expected loss, regardless of the house edge on any additional bet you might make to hedge the 7 and/or 11.
Since it's only the flat bet that takes the beating on the comeout, why not keep your line bet to a minimum and lay lots of odds? You reduce your expected loss by 14 cents for every $10 less you put on the DP line. For example, compare the $100 DP with $30 DP, laying double odds, for 60 bets:
It's worth considering.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA
Next question - for you guys that play the dark side.
Do you find it better to simply get 1 point and sit back and wait for the roll to end? This can get really boring.
Are there any benefits or downsides to playing the Don't Pass and then a couple of Don't come bets and have a few numbers working at the same time? It's seems a little more exciting when you have a few numbers working at the same time. But, am I hurting myself by having these multiple numbers all working during a roll?
Thanks for all your comments.
If I place $30 on the come out and then take double odds of $60.00, I've only got $90 per point working at a time. Casino websites uk. If I have this correct, I'll be wagering a total of $90.00 for a chance of winning 4/10 $60, 5/9 $70 and 6/8 $80. Do I have this correct under this scenario?
You would win $30 + $120 on 4/10, $30 + $105 on 5/9 and (taking $78 odds) $30 + $91. The payoffs improve and the risk lessens.
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Do you find it better to simply get 1 point and sit back and wait for the roll to end? This can get really boring. Are there any benefits or downsides to playing the Don't Pass and then a couple of Don't come bets and have a few numbers working at the same time? It's seems a little more exciting when you have a few numbers working at the same time. But, am I hurting myself by having these multiple numbers all working during a roll?
All sorts of theories abound how many numbers to be up on. One conservative approach limits it to two. Then there is always the question of whether to lay odds. Don't betting is by and large quieter and slower going. But you know who wins the race,right?
The pass line is so much more fun to play because you have the entire table cheering. But, I can't help but think in the back of my mind that once a point is established, all the odds are in favor of the house.
Only bad part about playing the dark side is you find yourself sitting in a corner being all quiet trying not to attract too much attention to yourself.
But, it sure is a great feeling when you have a great number like 4 or 10.
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